Freeview changes

[Jeff Layman]

Big update yesterday to streamed channels:
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

[Davey]

On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:02:39 +0100

Post by Jeff Layman
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

Thanks for that information. As I don't watch any of the listed
channels, I can ignore the retune for now.
For now, I'm sure there will be another one along soon.

[Adrian Caspersz]

Post by Jeff Layman
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

Murdoch's TalkTV moving to streaming only, due to poor on-air viewing
figures

[Woody]

Post by Adrian Caspersz

Post by Jeff Layman
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

Murdoch's TalkTV moving to streaming only, due to poor on-air viewing
figures

Suspect that was due to the fact that no-one new it was there!

[Davey]

On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 12:46:49 +0100

Post by Woody

Post by Adrian Caspersz

Post by Jeff Layman
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

Murdoch's TalkTV moving to streaming only, due to poor on-air
viewing figures

Suspect that was due to the fact that no-one new it was there!

Nor cared if they did?

[Davey]

On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:02:39 +0100

Post by Jeff Layman
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

I read that Channel 5 is changing its name to '5'.
Yet another totally pointless exercise.

[Scott]

Post by Davey
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:02:39 +0100

Post by Jeff Layman
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

I read that Channel 5 is changing its name to '5'.
Yet another totally pointless exercise.

Was it not called 'Five' at one stage?

[Davey]

On Thu, 05 Sep 2024 17:55:41 +0100

Post by Scott

Post by Davey
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:02:39 +0100

Post by Jeff Layman
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

I read that Channel 5 is changing its name to '5'.
Yet another totally pointless exercise.

Was it not called 'Five' at one stage?

No idea.

[NY]

Post by Davey
On Thu, 05 Sep 2024 17:55:41 +0100

Post by Scott

Post by Davey
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:02:39 +0100

Post by Jeff Layman
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

I read that Channel 5 is changing its name to '5'.
Yet another totally pointless exercise.

Was it not called 'Five' at one stage?

No idea.

Yes it was. Why is it that people feel the urge to change the
established brand names of things every few years?

My philosophy in life is "choose the first name wisely, because once it
is known to your customers/users, you must NEVER change it again".

Marathon / Snickers
Opal Fruits / Starburst
Jif / Cif
Oil of Ulay / Oil of Olay
Twitter / X

[John Hall]

Post by NY

Post by Davey
On Thu, 05 Sep 2024 17:55:41 +0100

Post by Scott

Post by Davey
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:02:39 +0100

Post by Jeff Layman
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

I read that Channel 5 is changing its name to '5'.
Yet another totally pointless exercise.

Was it not called 'Five' at one stage?

No idea.

Yes it was. Why is it that people feel the urge to change the
established brand names of things every few years?
My philosophy in life is "choose the first name wisely, because once it
is known to your customers/users, you must NEVER change it again".

I agree.

Post by NY
Marathon / Snickers
Opal Fruits / Starburst
Jif / Cif
Oil of Ulay / Oil of Olay
Twitter / X

Norwich Union / Aviva

But perhaps the silliest was the company Aberdeen dropping all but the
first vowel from its name, to become abrdn. How do you even pronounce
that?

[Davey]

On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:51:15 +0100

Post by John Hall

Post by NY

Post by Davey
On Thu, 05 Sep 2024 17:55:41 +0100

Post by Scott

Post by Davey
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:02:39 +0100

Post by Jeff Layman
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

I read that Channel 5 is changing its name to '5'.
Yet another totally pointless exercise.

Was it not called 'Five' at one stage?

No idea.

Yes it was. Why is it that people feel the urge to change the
established brand names of things every few years?
My philosophy in life is "choose the first name wisely, because once
it is known to your customers/users, you must NEVER change it
again".

I agree.

Post by NY
Marathon / Snickers
Opal Fruits / Starburst
Jif / Cif
Oil of Ulay / Oil of Olay
Twitter / X

Norwich Union / Aviva
But perhaps the silliest was the company Aberdeen dropping all but
the first vowel from its name, to become abrdn. How do you even
pronounce that?

"Nuts"?

[Paul Ratcliffe]

Post by John Hall
But perhaps the silliest was the company Aberdeen dropping all but the
first vowel from its name, to become abrdn. How do you even pronounce
that?

Standard Life.

[Andy Burns]

Why is it that people feel the urge to change the established brand
names of things every few years?

With channel5 the re-brands seem to follow changes of ownership.

[Davey]

On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:58:06 +0100

Post by Andy Burns

Why is it that people feel the urge to change the established brand
names of things every few years?

With channel5 the re-brands seem to follow changes of ownership.

But they don't seem to indicate with any success who the new owners are.
"U&", anyone?

[David Wade]

Post by Davey
On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:58:06 +0100

Post by Andy Burns

Why is it that people feel the urge to change the established brand
names of things every few years?

With channel5 the re-brands seem to follow changes of ownership.

But they don't seem to indicate with any success who the new owners are.
"U&", anyone?

Is that driven by sponsorship by "Visit the USA" ?

Dave

[Davey]

On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 15:06:55 +0100

Post by David Wade

Post by Davey
On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:58:06 +0100

Post by Andy Burns

Why is it that people feel the urge to change the established
brand names of things every few years?

With channel5 the re-brands seem to follow changes of ownership.

But they don't seem to indicate with any success who the new owners
are. "U&", anyone?

Is that driven by sponsorship by "Visit the USA" ?
Dave

Been there, lived there, came back home.

[Brian Gregory]

Post by Davey
On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 15:06:55 +0100

Post by David Wade

Post by Davey
On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:58:06 +0100

Post by Andy Burns

Why is it that people feel the urge to change the established
brand names of things every few years?

With channel5 the re-brands seem to follow changes of ownership.

But they don't seem to indicate with any success who the new owners
are. "U&", anyone?

Is that driven by sponsorship by "Visit the USA" ?
Dave

Been there, lived there, came back home.

Very wise decision.

[Paul Ratcliffe]

Post by Andy Burns

Why is it that people feel the urge to change the established brand
names of things every few years?

With channel5 the re-brands seem to follow changes of ownership.

A new broom always has to have something to sweep, even if nothing needs
sweeping.
Managers have to justify their pathetic existences otherwise somebody
might work out what they (don't) do.

[Max Demian]

Post by NY
My philosophy in life is "choose the first name wisely, because once it
is known to your customers/users, you must NEVER change it again".
Marathon / Snickers
Opal Fruits / Starburst
Jif / Cif
Oil of Ulay / Oil of Olay
Twitter / X

Sugar Puffs/Honey Monster

[NY]

Post by Max Demian

Post by NY
My philosophy in life is "choose the first name wisely, because once
it is known to your customers/users, you must NEVER change it again".
Marathon / Snickers
Opal Fruits / Starburst
Jif / Cif
Oil of Ulay / Oil of Olay
Twitter / X

Sugar Puffs/Honey Monster

I think the Sugar Puffs -> Honey Monster change is partly to reflect the
reduced sugar and the increased honey, and not only to avoid the word
"puffs" (poofs). I can remember at school in the 1970s, gays being
referred to "sugars" ;-)

[Scott]

Post by NY

Post by Davey
On Thu, 05 Sep 2024 17:55:41 +0100

Post by Scott

Post by Davey
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:02:39 +0100

Post by Jeff Layman
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

I read that Channel 5 is changing its name to '5'.
Yet another totally pointless exercise.

Was it not called 'Five' at one stage?

No idea.

Yes it was. Why is it that people feel the urge to change the
established brand names of things every few years?
My philosophy in life is "choose the first name wisely, because once it
is known to your customers/users, you must NEVER change it again".
Marathon / Snickers
Opal Fruits / Starburst
Jif / Cif
Oil of Ulay / Oil of Olay
Twitter / X

Didn't Kelloggs change Fruit 'n Fibre to Optimum at one stage?
Complete disaster.

BT changed Cellnet to O2, which seemed entirely successful?

[Andy Burns]

Post by Scott
BT changed Cellnet to O2, which seemed entirely successful?

Then realised they'd fucked-up by selling O2, so bought EE instead

[Scott]

Post by Andy Burns

Post by Scott
BT changed Cellnet to O2, which seemed entirely successful?

Then realised they'd fucked-up by selling O2, so bought EE instead

I believe they first made an unsuccessful attempt to buy O2 from
Telefónica.

[Wilf]

Post by Andy Burns

Post by Scott
BT changed Cellnet to O2, which seemed entirely successful?

Then realised they'd fucked-up by selling O2, so bought EE instead

They renamed O2 in order to sell it off. The CEO of BT at that time
was a self-proclaimed 'genius' but he made a monumental mistake in
thinking that cellular service was relatively unimportant to BT.

[JMB99]

Post by Scott
BT changed Cellnet to O2, which seemed entirely successful?

I always felt it was a pity they could not have fully incorporated
Cellnet into BT but I think the regulators would not have allowed it.

BT have lots of buildings even in remote areas. They could have rolled
out coverage much quicker even if the sites were not the ideal ones.

Perhaps they could have had some sort of number portability allowing
shared accounts for home phone and mobile phone.

[Davey]

On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:03:18 +0100

Post by NY

Post by Davey
On Thu, 05 Sep 2024 17:55:41 +0100

Post by Scott

Post by Davey
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:02:39 +0100

Post by Jeff Layman
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

I read that Channel 5 is changing its name to '5'.
Yet another totally pointless exercise.

Was it not called 'Five' at one stage?

No idea.

Yes it was. Why is it that people feel the urge to change the
established brand names of things every few years?
My philosophy in life is "choose the first name wisely, because once
it is known to your customers/users, you must NEVER change it again".
Marathon / Snickers
Opal Fruits / Starburst
Jif / Cif
Oil of Ulay / Oil of Olay
Twitter / X

This just in:

"Back in February 2023, Jardine Motors Group was purchased
by Lithia & Driveway, one of the largest dealer groups in the United
States. Lithia & Driveway then went on to purchase Pendragon, the
parent company of Stratstone, Evans Halshaw, QuickCo and Pendragon
Vehicle Management. This unified UK automotive retail group focuses on
growth and creating exceptional customer experiences.

As part of the wider Group, our BMW and MINI stores will now be known
as Stratstone BMW and Stratstone MINI."

I am sure everybody will continue to call it Jardines for some years
to come, it is a large place not far from the centre of town. I hate
the use of the word 'store' in relation to a car dealer, it sounds as
though you can just pluck a car off the shelf and walk out with it
under your arm. Try doing that with a BMW X5.

The 'exceptional customer experiences' include the impression that all
youngish female employees in the Reception area have been instructed
to wear the shortest skirts that they can get away with and remain
legal.
(In these enlightened times, I suppose I should add that the male
employees have probably been given the same instructions, but I saw no
sign of them taking advantage of this).

So, a 'unified UK automotive retail group' is now owned by an American
group. Oh well.

[Andy Burns]

I hate the use of the word 'store' in relation to a car dealer, it
sounds as though you can just pluck a car off the shelf and walk out
with it under your arm.

I think it's only the VW Up! which is available in newsagents

[JMB99]

Post by Davey
I read that Channel 5 is changing its name to '5'.
Yet another totally pointless exercise.

And I bet they manage to spend lots of money on the change.