Freeview changes

Big update yesterday to streamed channels:
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

--
Jeff

Davey

2024-08-22 18:11:40 UTC

On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:02:39 +0100

Post by Jeff Layman
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

Thanks for that information. As I don't watch any of the listed
channels, I can ignore the retune for now.
For now, I'm sure there will be another one along soon.

--
Davey.

Adrian Caspersz

2024-08-23 05:39:50 UTC

Post by Jeff Layman
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

Murdoch's TalkTV moving to streaming only, due to poor on-air viewing
figures

--
Adrian C

Woody

2024-08-23 11:46:49 UTC

Post by Adrian Caspersz

Post by Jeff Layman
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

Murdoch's TalkTV moving to streaming only, due to poor on-air viewing
figures

Suspect that was due to the fact that no-one new it was there!

Davey

2024-08-23 11:50:00 UTC

On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 12:46:49 +0100

Post by Woody

Post by Adrian Caspersz

Post by Jeff Layman
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

Murdoch's TalkTV moving to streaming only, due to poor on-air
viewing figures

Suspect that was due to the fact that no-one new it was there!

Nor cared if they did?

--
Davey.

Davey

2024-09-05 16:50:22 UTC

On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:02:39 +0100

Post by Jeff Layman
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

I read that Channel 5 is changing its name to '5'.
Yet another totally pointless exercise.

--
Davey.

Scott

2024-09-05 16:55:41 UTC

Post by Davey
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:02:39 +0100

Post by Jeff Layman
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

I read that Channel 5 is changing its name to '5'.
Yet another totally pointless exercise.

Was it not called 'Five' at one stage?

Davey

2024-09-05 19:11:22 UTC

On Thu, 05 Sep 2024 17:55:41 +0100

Post by Davey
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:02:39 +0100

Post by Jeff Layman
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

I read that Channel 5 is changing its name to '5'.
Yet another totally pointless exercise.

Was it not called 'Five' at one stage?

No idea.

--
Davey.

2024-09-06 23:03:18 UTC

Post by Davey
On Thu, 05 Sep 2024 17:55:41 +0100

Post by Davey
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:02:39 +0100

Post by Jeff Layman
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

I read that Channel 5 is changing its name to '5'.
Yet another totally pointless exercise.

Was it not called 'Five' at one stage?

No idea.

Yes it was. Why is it that people feel the urge to change the
established brand names of things every few years?

My philosophy in life is "choose the first name wisely, because once it
is known to your customers/users, you must NEVER change it again".

Marathon / Snickers
Opal Fruits / Starburst
Jif / Cif
Oil of Ulay / Oil of Olay
Twitter / X

John Hall

2024-09-07 08:51:15 UTC

Post by Davey
On Thu, 05 Sep 2024 17:55:41 +0100

Post by Davey
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:02:39 +0100

Post by Jeff Layman
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

I read that Channel 5 is changing its name to '5'.
Yet another totally pointless exercise.

Was it not called 'Five' at one stage?

No idea.

Yes it was. Why is it that people feel the urge to change the
established brand names of things every few years?
My philosophy in life is "choose the first name wisely, because once it
is known to your customers/users, you must NEVER change it again".

I agree.

Post by NY
Marathon / Snickers
Opal Fruits / Starburst
Jif / Cif
Oil of Ulay / Oil of Olay
Twitter / X

Norwich Union / Aviva

But perhaps the silliest was the company Aberdeen dropping all but the
first vowel from its name, to become abrdn. How do you even pronounce
that?

--
John Hall

"I don't even butter my bread; I consider that cooking."
Katherine Cebrian

Davey

2024-09-07 11:22:51 UTC

On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:51:15 +0100

Post by John Hall

Post by Davey
On Thu, 05 Sep 2024 17:55:41 +0100

Post by Davey
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:02:39 +0100

Post by Jeff Layman
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

I read that Channel 5 is changing its name to '5'.
Yet another totally pointless exercise.

Was it not called 'Five' at one stage?

No idea.

Yes it was. Why is it that people feel the urge to change the
established brand names of things every few years?
My philosophy in life is "choose the first name wisely, because once
it is known to your customers/users, you must NEVER change it
again".

I agree.

Post by NY
Marathon / Snickers
Opal Fruits / Starburst
Jif / Cif
Oil of Ulay / Oil of Olay
Twitter / X

Norwich Union / Aviva
But perhaps the silliest was the company Aberdeen dropping all but
the first vowel from its name, to become abrdn. How do you even
pronounce that?

"Nuts"?

--
Davey.

Paul Ratcliffe

2024-09-08 18:49:17 UTC

Post by John Hall
But perhaps the silliest was the company Aberdeen dropping all but the
first vowel from its name, to become abrdn. How do you even pronounce
that?

Standard Life.

Andy Burns

2024-09-07 09:58:06 UTC

Why is it that people feel the urge to change the established brand
names of things every few years?

With channel5 the re-brands seem to follow changes of ownership.

Davey

2024-09-07 11:24:01 UTC

On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:58:06 +0100

Why is it that people feel the urge to change the established brand
names of things every few years?

With channel5 the re-brands seem to follow changes of ownership.

But they don't seem to indicate with any success who the new owners are.
"U&", anyone?

--
Davey.

David Wade

2024-09-07 14:06:55 UTC

Post by Davey
On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:58:06 +0100

Why is it that people feel the urge to change the established brand
names of things every few years?

With channel5 the re-brands seem to follow changes of ownership.

But they don't seem to indicate with any success who the new owners are.
"U&", anyone?

Is that driven by sponsorship by "Visit the USA" ?

Dave

Davey

2024-09-07 14:26:41 UTC

On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 15:06:55 +0100

Post by David Wade

Post by Davey
On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:58:06 +0100

Why is it that people feel the urge to change the established
brand names of things every few years?

With channel5 the re-brands seem to follow changes of ownership.

But they don't seem to indicate with any success who the new owners
are. "U&", anyone?

Is that driven by sponsorship by "Visit the USA" ?
Dave

Been there, lived there, came back home.

--
Davey.

Brian Gregory

2024-09-16 16:34:13 UTC

Post by Davey
On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 15:06:55 +0100

Post by David Wade

Post by Davey
On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:58:06 +0100

Why is it that people feel the urge to change the established
brand names of things every few years?

With channel5 the re-brands seem to follow changes of ownership.

But they don't seem to indicate with any success who the new owners
are. "U&", anyone?

Is that driven by sponsorship by "Visit the USA" ?
Dave

Been there, lived there, came back home.

Very wise decision.

--
Brian Gregory (in England).

Paul Ratcliffe

2024-09-08 18:51:56 UTC

Why is it that people feel the urge to change the established brand
names of things every few years?

With channel5 the re-brands seem to follow changes of ownership.

A new broom always has to have something to sweep, even if nothing needs
sweeping.
Managers have to justify their pathetic existences otherwise somebody
might work out what they (don't) do.

Max Demian

2024-09-09 12:38:04 UTC

Post by NY
My philosophy in life is "choose the first name wisely, because once it
is known to your customers/users, you must NEVER change it again".
Marathon / Snickers
Opal Fruits / Starburst
Jif / Cif
Oil of Ulay / Oil of Olay
Twitter / X

Sugar Puffs/Honey Monster

--
Max Demian

2024-09-10 09:41:04 UTC

Post by Max Demian

Post by NY
My philosophy in life is "choose the first name wisely, because once
it is known to your customers/users, you must NEVER change it again".
Marathon / Snickers
Opal Fruits / Starburst
Jif / Cif
Oil of Ulay / Oil of Olay
Twitter / X

Sugar Puffs/Honey Monster

I think the Sugar Puffs -> Honey Monster change is partly to reflect the
reduced sugar and the increased honey, and not only to avoid the word
"puffs" (poofs). I can remember at school in the 1970s, gays being
referred to "sugars" ;-)

JNugent

2024-12-08 20:46:47 UTC

Post by NY
My philosophy in life is "choose the first name wisely, because once
it is known to your customers/users, you must NEVER change it again".
Marathon / Snickers

Snickers was introduced in the USA (by Mars) in 1930.

Mars decided to use the name "Marathon" in the UK, almost certainly to
avoid unfortunate inferences.

The name was changed to Snickers only because there was an unrelated
Marathon bar on sale in the US. Had it not been for that, the Marathon
might well have still been on sale here.

alan_m

2024-12-08 23:33:50 UTC

Post by NY
My philosophy in life is "choose the first name wisely, because once
it is known to your customers/users, you must NEVER change it again".
Marathon / Snickers

Snickers was introduced in the USA (by Mars) in 1930.
Mars decided to use the name "Marathon" in the UK, almost certainly to
avoid unfortunate inferences.
The name was changed to Snickers only because there was an unrelated
Marathon bar on sale in the US. Had it not been for that, the Marathon
might well have still been on sale here.

It's much like name pronunciation changes

NESTLÉ : After decades of them telling us it's Nesel(s) it's now Neslay

More recent
Hyundai : Advertised as Hi-undi and now just Hundi

I have one satellite channel set to the Irish channel version

Lidl : UK advertising Lidel, Eire advertising Ledel

--
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JNugent

2024-12-09 00:39:10 UTC

Post by NY
My philosophy in life is "choose the first name wisely, because once
it is known to your customers/users, you must NEVER change it again".
Marathon / Snickers

Snickers was introduced in the USA (by Mars) in 1930.
Mars decided to use the name "Marathon" in the UK, almost certainly to
avoid unfortunate inferences.
The name was changed to Snickers only because there was an unrelated
Marathon bar on sale in the US. Had it not been for that, the Marathon
might well have still been on sale here.

It's much like name pronunciation changes
NESTLÉ : After decades of them telling us it's Nesel(s) it's now Neslay

Oh, that one is crazy.

"...Nessaly's Milky Bar..." sang no advertising voice-over, not ever.

Post by alan_m
More recent
Hyundai : Advertised as Hi-undi and now just Hundi

I was never sure how it ought to be pronounced in the first place.

But doesn't South Korea use their own oriental character set?

That being the case, it is remarkable that they never transliterated the
name into the Latin alphabet as "Hundi" in the first place. What was the
point of the "y" and the "a"?

Post by alan_m
I have one satellite channel set to the Irish channel version
Lidl : UK advertising Lidel, Eire advertising Ledel

It's interesting that the UK store makes great play of the many hardware
(etc) non-food items sold at the rear of the centre aisle as being "The
middle of LIDL".

Roger

2024-12-09 12:33:23 UTC

Post by alan_m
More recent
Hyundai : Advertised as Hi-undi and now just Hundi

I was never sure how it ought to be pronounced in the first place.
But doesn't South Korea use their own oriental character set?

Yes, hangul.

Post by JNugent
That being the case, it is remarkable that they never transliterated the
name into the Latin alphabet as "Hundi" in the first place. What was the
point of the "y" and the "a"?

Hangul characters are a bit like the atom; composed of
little bits. Hyundai is written with two characters. The
first character is composed of three bits: h-yeo-n, the
second of two bits: d-ae. Pronouncing it Hundi seems
wrong to me. Blame the advertising industry.

--
Roger

Jeff Layman

2024-12-09 12:38:00 UTC

Post by NY
My philosophy in life is "choose the first name wisely, because once
it is known to your customers/users, you must NEVER change it again".
Marathon / Snickers

Snickers was introduced in the USA (by Mars) in 1930.
Mars decided to use the name "Marathon" in the UK, almost certainly to
avoid unfortunate inferences.
The name was changed to Snickers only because there was an unrelated
Marathon bar on sale in the US. Had it not been for that, the Marathon
might well have still been on sale here.

It's much like name pronunciation changes
NESTLÉ : After decades of them telling us it's Nesel(s) it's now Neslay

Oh, that one is crazy.
"...Nessaly's Milky Bar..." sang no advertising voice-over, not ever.

Post by alan_m
More recent
Hyundai : Advertised as Hi-undi and now just Hundi

I was never sure how it ought to be pronounced in the first place.

I was at an international meeting in the USA in the early 80s. One of
the attendees was from South Korea. His English was pretty good, and
when he asked me if I knew any Korean I said that the only words I knew
were "kimchi" and "Hy - un - die". He looked very puzzled at the second
one. He said he didn't know that word, and asked me what it meant. I
said it was a Korean car which was sold in Britain. He thought for a
moment, and a large grin crossed his face as he said "Ah - you mean
"Yunday!" (with an almost imperceptible H before the Y). So that's the
way I've been correcting people's pronunciation for 40 years!

--
Jeff

Andy Burns

2024-12-09 12:55:01 UTC

Post by Jeff Layman
I was at an international meeting in the USA in the early 80s. One of
the attendees was from South Korea. His English was pretty good,

About 20 years ago, I did some work integrating Lotus Notes to Swift
payments, via a Korean banking package, they had a one-man office in
London and the chap there had very good English.

Post by Jeff Layman
and when he asked me if I knew any Korean I said that the only words
I knew were "kimchi" and "Hy - un - die". He looked very puzzled at
the second one. He said he didn't know that word, and asked me what
it meant. I said it was a Korean car which was sold in Britain. He
thought for a moment, and a large grin crossed his face as he said
"Ah - you mean "Yunday!" (with an almost imperceptible H before the
Y).

That's the way I've always understood it.

The recent martial law kerfuffle was surprising, obviously there's
tension between the north and south, but I didn't realise the south
itself was anywhere close to that level of instability, always presumed
South Korea was quite wealthy and westernised in a Japanese sort of fashion?

Jeff Layman

2024-12-09 13:36:16 UTC

Post by Andy Burns
The recent martial law kerfuffle was surprising, obviously there's
tension between the north and south, but I didn't realise the south
itself was anywhere close to that level of instability, always presumed
South Korea was quite wealthy and westernised in a Japanese sort of fashion?

I think that just about everybody who wasn't Korean was amazed at the
martial law announcement. It looks like even Korean opposition MPs don't
understand it!
<https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn38321180et>

Can we bet on seeing similar incomprehensible decisions from a
recently-elected incoming leader?...

--
Jeff

Davey

2024-12-09 14:00:01 UTC

On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 13:36:16 +0000

Post by Jeff Layman

Post by Andy Burns
The recent martial law kerfuffle was surprising, obviously there's
tension between the north and south, but I didn't realise the south
itself was anywhere close to that level of instability, always
presumed South Korea was quite wealthy and westernised in a
Japanese sort of fashion?

I think that just about everybody who wasn't Korean was amazed at the
martial law announcement. It looks like even Korean opposition MPs
don't understand it!
<https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn38321180et>
Can we bet on seeing similar incomprehensible decisions from a
recently-elected incoming leader?...

...or even a leader elected in July?

--
Davey.

PeterC

2024-12-09 18:04:44 UTC

Post by Jeff Layman

Post by alan_m
More recent
Hyundai : Advertised as Hi-undi and now just Hundi

I was never sure how it ought to be pronounced in the first place.

Tom the ads sound like Yshunday, but me hearing isn't 100%.

--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

JMB99

2024-12-09 08:03:13 UTC

Post by alan_m
Hyundai : Advertised as Hi-undi and now just Hundi

They seem to be using a silly pronunciation of the name as a way getting
better known.

alan_m

2024-12-09 08:27:45 UTC

Post by alan_m
Lidl : UK advertising Lidel, Eire advertising Ledel

Eire Lee-del

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Ashley Booth

2024-12-09 09:32:16 UTC

Post by alan_m
Lidl : UK advertising Lidel, Eire advertising Ledel

Eire Lee-del

Lidl is German and Lee-del is how it's pronounced in German.

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Spike

2024-12-09 10:50:10 UTC

Post by Ashley Booth

Post by alan_m
Lidl : UK advertising Lidel, Eire advertising Ledel

Eire Lee-del

Lidl is German and Lee-del is how it's pronounced in German.

Don’t forget Volkswaggon.

--
Spike

Ian Jackson

2024-12-10 16:21:40 UTC

Post by Ashley Booth

Post by alan_m
Lidl : UK advertising Lidel, Eire advertising Ledel

Eire Lee-del

Lidl is German and Lee-del is how it's pronounced in German.

It's only recently that I've been hearing the German 'i' being
pronounced strongly as 'ee'.

--
Ian
Aims and ambitions are neither attainments nor achievements

Jeff Gaines

2024-12-09 08:48:05 UTC

Post by alan_m
It's much like name pronunciation changes
NESTLÉ : After decades of them telling us it's Nesel(s) it's now Neslay
More recent
Hyundai : Advertised as Hi-undi and now just Hundi

And Shkoda of course.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
It may be that your sole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others.

Ian Jackson

2024-12-10 16:16:31 UTC

Post by NY
My philosophy in life is "choose the first name wisely, because once
it is known to your customers/users, you must NEVER change it again".
Marathon / Snickers

Snickers was introduced in the USA (by Mars) in 1930.
Mars decided to use the name "Marathon" in the UK, almost certainly
to avoid unfortunate inferences.
The name was changed to Snickers only because there was an unrelated
Marathon bar on sale in the US. Had it not been for that, the Marathon
might well have still been on sale here.

It's much like name pronunciation changes
NESTLÉ : After decades of them telling us it's Nesel(s) it's now Neslay
More recent
Hyundai : Advertised as Hi-undi and now just Hundi

As the name in English will be a phonetic transliteration of the
Japanese, they should have chosen a more-appropriate spelling. I suggest
'H'yunn-day.

Post by alan_m
I have one satellite channel set to the Irish channel version
Lidl : UK advertising Lidel, Eire advertising Ledel

LBC's Nick Ferrari always says 'Leedle'.

--
Ian
Aims and ambitions are neither attainments nor achievements

JNugent

2024-12-10 18:01:41 UTC

Post by NY
My philosophy in life is "choose the first name wisely, because once
it is known to your customers/users, you must NEVER change it again".
Marathon / Snickers

Snickers was introduced in the USA (by Mars) in 1930.
Mars decided to use the name "Marathon" in the UK, almost certainly
to avoid unfortunate inferences.
The name was changed to Snickers only because there was an unrelated
Marathon bar on sale in the US. Had it not been for that, the
Marathon might well have still been on sale here.

It's much like name pronunciation changes
NESTLÉ : After decades of them telling us it's Nesel(s) it's now Neslay
More recent
Hyundai : Advertised as Hi-undi and now just Hundi

As the name in English will be a phonetic transliteration of the
Japanese, they should have chosen a more-appropriate spelling. I suggest
'H'yunn-day.

Korean?

2024-12-10 19:18:29 UTC

Post by NY
My philosophy in life is "choose the first name wisely, because
once it is known to your customers/users, you must NEVER change it
again".
Marathon / Snickers

Snickers was introduced in the USA (by Mars) in 1930.
Mars decided to use the name "Marathon" in the UK, almost certainly
to avoid unfortunate inferences.
The name was changed to Snickers only because there was an
unrelated Marathon bar on sale in the US. Had it not been for that,
the Marathon might well have still been on sale here.

It's much like name pronunciation changes
NESTLÉ : After decades of them telling us it's Nesel(s) it's now Neslay
More recent
Hyundai : Advertised as Hi-undi and now just Hundi

As the name in English will be a phonetic transliteration of the
Japanese, they should have chosen a more-appropriate spelling. I
suggest 'H'yunn-day.

Korean?

Likewise for Daewoo. I presume it is a transliteration of a Korean
characters, so why not choose an English spelling that matched the
required pronunciation - "Dayoo" rather than "Daewoo".

What is the Swedish pronunciation of Ikea? I've heard "IKK-ea-AH" as
opposed to the British English "eye-KEE-ah". I realise that this is a
special case because it's an acronym rather than a Swedish word or name
- as in Ingvar Kamprad Elmtaryd Agunnaryd (founder's name, the name of
his farm, the name of his village).

Tweed

2024-12-10 19:38:33 UTC

Post by NY
My philosophy in life is "choose the first name wisely, because
once it is known to your customers/users, you must NEVER change it
again".
Marathon / Snickers

Snickers was introduced in the USA (by Mars) in 1930.
Mars decided to use the name "Marathon" in the UK, almost certainly
to avoid unfortunate inferences.
The name was changed to Snickers only because there was an
unrelated Marathon bar on sale in the US. Had it not been for that,
the Marathon might well have still been on sale here.

It's much like name pronunciation changes
NESTLÉ : After decades of them telling us it's Nesel(s) it's now Neslay
More recent
Hyundai : Advertised as Hi-undi and now just Hundi

As the name in English will be a phonetic transliteration of the
Japanese, they should have chosen a more-appropriate spelling. I
suggest 'H'yunn-day.

Korean?

Likewise for Daewoo. I presume it is a transliteration of a Korean
characters, so why not choose an English spelling that matched the
required pronunciation - "Dayoo" rather than "Daewoo".
What is the Swedish pronunciation of Ikea? I've heard "IKK-ea-AH" as
opposed to the British English "eye-KEE-ah". I realise that this is a
special case because it's an acronym rather than a Swedish word or name
- as in Ingvar Kamprad Elmtaryd Agunnaryd (founder's name, the name of
his farm, the name of his village).

IKK-ea-AH is how I heard Swedes pronounce it, long before the first UK shop
opened.

JNugent

2025-01-10 20:09:35 UTC

Post by Tweed

Post by NY
My philosophy in life is "choose the first name wisely, because
once it is known to your customers/users, you must NEVER change it
again".
Marathon / Snickers

Snickers was introduced in the USA (by Mars) in 1930.
Mars decided to use the name "Marathon" in the UK, almost certainly
to avoid unfortunate inferences.
The name was changed to Snickers only because there was an
unrelated Marathon bar on sale in the US. Had it not been for that,
the Marathon might well have still been on sale here.

It's much like name pronunciation changes
NESTLÉ : After decades of them telling us it's Nesel(s) it's now Neslay
More recent
Hyundai : Advertised as Hi-undi and now just Hundi

As the name in English will be a phonetic transliteration of the
Japanese, they should have chosen a more-appropriate spelling. I
suggest 'H'yunn-day.

Korean?

Likewise for Daewoo. I presume it is a transliteration of a Korean
characters, so why not choose an English spelling that matched the
required pronunciation - "Dayoo" rather than "Daewoo".
What is the Swedish pronunciation of Ikea? I've heard "IKK-ea-AH" as
opposed to the British English "eye-KEE-ah". I realise that this is a
special case because it's an acronym rather than a Swedish word or name
- as in Ingvar Kamprad Elmtaryd Agunnaryd (founder's name, the name of
his farm, the name of his village).

IKK-ea-AH is how I heard Swedes pronounce it, long before the first UK shop
opened.

That woman who used to do the weather on TV-AM (Ulrika?) once said that
she was related to the family that owned it. Mind you, she had a very
proper RP English accent.

Ian Jackson

2024-12-10 21:24:54 UTC

Post by NY
My philosophy in life is "choose the first name wisely, because
once it is known to your customers/users, you must NEVER change it
Marathon / Snickers

Snickers was introduced in the USA (by Mars) in 1930.
Mars decided to use the name "Marathon" in the UK, almost
certainly to avoid unfortunate inferences.
The name was changed to Snickers only because there was an
unrelated Marathon bar on sale in the US. Had it not been for that,
the Marathon might well have still been on sale here.

It's much like name pronunciation changes
NESTLÉ : After decades of them telling us it's Nesel(s) it's now Neslay
More recent
Hyundai : Advertised as Hi-undi and now just Hundi

As the name in English will be a phonetic transliteration of the
Japanese, they should have chosen a more-appropriate spelling. I
suggest 'H'yunn-day.

Korean?

OK. Silly me. Close - but no cigar!.

--
Ian
Aims and ambitions are neither attainments nor achievements

Andy Burns

2024-12-09 09:31:06 UTC

Post by JNugent
The name was changed to Snickers only because there was an unrelated
Marathon bar on sale in the US. Had it not been for that, the Marathon
might well have still been on sale here.

Morrisons were selling Marathon "retro edition" a couple of months ago.

JNugent

2024-12-09 18:08:28 UTC

Post by JNugent
The name was changed to Snickers only because there was an unrelated
Marathon bar on sale in the US. Had it not been for that, the Marathon
might well have still been on sale here.

Morrisons were selling Marathon "retro edition" a couple of months ago.

Were they?

But not in the USA? :-)

I doubt that that was desiegned to make buyers think that either:

(a) Marathons were back and Snickers were out, or

(b) a new product called marathon had been put onto the market.

On a related note, about thirty years ago, Mars brought back Spangles
for a month or two. I bought a few packs of Olde English from Woolworths.

Max Demian

2024-12-09 18:29:44 UTC

Post by JNugent
The name was changed to Snickers only because there was an unrelated
Marathon bar on sale in the US. Had it not been for that, the
Marathon might well have still been on sale here.

Morrisons were selling Marathon "retro edition" a couple of months ago.

Were they?
But not in the USA? :-)
(a) Marathons were back and Snickers were out, or
(b) a new product called marathon had been put onto the market.
On a related note, about thirty years ago, Mars brought back Spangles
for a month or two. I bought a few packs of Olde English from Woolworths.

I haven't seen tubes of Refreshers lately - the pastel coloured discs
with concave sides.

I can remember when they were 2d per tube.

--
Max Demian

Andy Burns

2024-12-09 19:05:22 UTC

Post by Max Demian
I haven't seen tubes of Refreshers lately - the pastel coloured discs
with concave sides.

They still exist in some supermarkets.

John Hall

2024-12-09 10:00:18 UTC

Post by NY
My philosophy in life is "choose the first name wisely, because once
it is known to your customers/users, you must NEVER change it again".
Marathon / Snickers

Snickers was introduced in the USA (by Mars) in 1930.
Mars decided to use the name "Marathon" in the UK, almost certainly to
avoid unfortunate inferences.
The name was changed to Snickers only because there was an unrelated
Marathon bar on sale in the US. Had it not been for that, the Marathon
might well have still been on sale here.

I've always felt rather sorry for the UK's female athletes having to
wear "Snickers" emblazoned on their singlets.

--
John Hall
"I look upon it, that he who does not mind his belly,
will hardly mind anything else."
Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-84)

Scott

2024-09-10 11:27:08 UTC

Post by Davey
On Thu, 05 Sep 2024 17:55:41 +0100

Post by Davey
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:02:39 +0100

Post by Jeff Layman
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

I read that Channel 5 is changing its name to '5'.
Yet another totally pointless exercise.

Was it not called 'Five' at one stage?

No idea.

Yes it was. Why is it that people feel the urge to change the
established brand names of things every few years?
My philosophy in life is "choose the first name wisely, because once it
is known to your customers/users, you must NEVER change it again".
Marathon / Snickers
Opal Fruits / Starburst
Jif / Cif
Oil of Ulay / Oil of Olay
Twitter / X

Didn't Kelloggs change Fruit 'n Fibre to Optimum at one stage?
Complete disaster.

BT changed Cellnet to O2, which seemed entirely successful?

Andy Burns

2024-09-10 11:39:25 UTC

Post by Scott
BT changed Cellnet to O2, which seemed entirely successful?

Then realised they'd fucked-up by selling O2, so bought EE instead

Scott

2024-09-10 12:05:06 UTC

Post by Scott
BT changed Cellnet to O2, which seemed entirely successful?

Then realised they'd fucked-up by selling O2, so bought EE instead

I believe they first made an unsuccessful attempt to buy O2 from
Telefónica.

Wilf

2024-09-10 16:17:37 UTC

Post by Scott
BT changed Cellnet to O2, which seemed entirely successful?

Then realised they'd fucked-up by selling O2, so bought EE instead

They renamed O2 in order to sell it off. The CEO of BT at that time
was a self-proclaimed 'genius' but he made a monumental mistake in
thinking that cellular service was relatively unimportant to BT.

--
Wilf

JMB99

2024-09-10 16:03:58 UTC

Post by Scott
BT changed Cellnet to O2, which seemed entirely successful?

I always felt it was a pity they could not have fully incorporated
Cellnet into BT but I think the regulators would not have allowed it.

BT have lots of buildings even in remote areas. They could have rolled
out coverage much quicker even if the sites were not the ideal ones.

Perhaps they could have had some sort of number portability allowing
shared accounts for home phone and mobile phone.

Davey

2024-10-01 08:53:08 UTC

On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:03:18 +0100

Post by Davey
On Thu, 05 Sep 2024 17:55:41 +0100

Post by Davey
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:02:39 +0100

Post by Jeff Layman
<https://www.freeview.co.uk/updates-alerts/channel-updates-21-august-2024>

I read that Channel 5 is changing its name to '5'.
Yet another totally pointless exercise.

Was it not called 'Five' at one stage?

No idea.

Yes it was. Why is it that people feel the urge to change the
established brand names of things every few years?
My philosophy in life is "choose the first name wisely, because once
it is known to your customers/users, you must NEVER change it again".
Marathon / Snickers
Opal Fruits / Starburst
Jif / Cif
Oil of Ulay / Oil of Olay
Twitter / X

This just in:

"Back in February 2023, Jardine Motors Group was purchased
by Lithia & Driveway, one of the largest dealer groups in the United
States. Lithia & Driveway then went on to purchase Pendragon, the
parent company of Stratstone, Evans Halshaw, QuickCo and Pendragon
Vehicle Management. This unified UK automotive retail group focuses on
growth and creating exceptional customer experiences.

As part of the wider Group, our BMW and MINI stores will now be known
as Stratstone BMW and Stratstone MINI."

I am sure everybody will continue to call it Jardines for some years
to come, it is a large place not far from the centre of town. I hate
the use of the word 'store' in relation to a car dealer, it sounds as
though you can just pluck a car off the shelf and walk out with it
under your arm. Try doing that with a BMW X5.

The 'exceptional customer experiences' include the impression that all
youngish female employees in the Reception area have been instructed
to wear the shortest skirts that they can get away with and remain
legal.
(In these enlightened times, I suppose I should add that the male
employees have probably been given the same instructions, but I saw no
sign of them taking advantage of this).

So, a 'unified UK automotive retail group' is now owned by an American
group. Oh well.

--
Davey.

Andy Burns

2024-10-01 10:05:31 UTC

I hate the use of the word 'store' in relation to a car dealer, it
sounds as though you can just pluck a car off the shelf and walk out
with it under your arm.

I think it's only the VW Up! which is available in newsagents

JMB99

2024-09-05 17:31:38 UTC