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Freeview Channel 801
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Peter
2004-07-08 18:30:28 UTC
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I am rx'ing freeview from Kilvey and my stb gives me BBC1 on channel
801.

I can't find any reference to this in any of the Freeview literature -
does anyone know which mux 801 is on?
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Peter

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Paul Grayson
2004-07-08 18:44:39 UTC
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Post by Peter
I am rx'ing freeview from Kilvey and my stb gives me BBC1 on channel
801.
I can't find any reference to this in any of the Freeview literature -
does anyone know which mux 801 is on?
Some STBs will put muxes from distant transmitters on channels starting
at 800 if they are found during a scan, with the stronger ones at the
usual position.
Peter
2004-07-08 19:04:21 UTC
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 19:44:39 +0100, Paul Grayson
Post by Paul Grayson
Post by Peter
I am rx'ing freeview from Kilvey and my stb gives me BBC1 on channel
801.
I can't find any reference to this in any of the Freeview literature -
does anyone know which mux 801 is on?
Some STBs will put muxes from distant transmitters on channels starting
at 800 if they are found during a scan, with the stronger ones at the
usual position.
Thanks,

But I get nothing on channel 1 - it looks as though the only channels
I pick up on Mux 1 (Channel 25) are the two radio stations - in my
case radio Wales and radio Cymru.

Before I commit to Freeview I need to know if I should be able to rx
the cooking version of BBC2, not just the brain dead BBC2W I get at
present.

Info is so hard to come by - I'm unsure if the stb is faulty or should
what I get on 801 really be on 1.

I'm happy it's not an aerial problem now - three different aerials at
two different addresses.

Is there a way the stb can be reset if necessary to stop it giving me
various channels in the 800 range?
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Peter

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Mike Jones Super Hero
2004-07-08 22:22:54 UTC
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Post by Peter
On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 19:44:39 +0100, Paul Grayson
Before I commit to Freeview I need to know if I should be able to rx
the cooking version of BBC2, not just the brain dead BBC2W I get at
present.
I get my signal from Kilvey (5 miles los) and I used to get BBC1 on 801 as
well (on an old Ondigital Nokia) but I did a rescan and it has now gone BBC1
is on Channel 1 as normal as it was before the rescan . I dont get the
cooking version of BBC2 only 2W.

HTH

Mike

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Brian McIlwrath
2004-07-08 18:42:52 UTC
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Peter <***@nidum.plus.com> wrote:
: I am rx'ing freeview from Kilvey and my stb gives me BBC1 on channel
: 801.

: I can't find any reference to this in any of the Freeview literature -
: does anyone know which mux 801 is on?

Could be any! Many STBs put "duplicate" channels at 801 onwards if - during
theeir UHF frequency scan - they have already encountered a channel tagged
for a particular EPG slot (1 in this case). It is likely to be a signal
from another DTT transmitter.
Stephen Neal
2004-07-08 19:05:31 UTC
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Post by Peter
I am rx'ing freeview from Kilvey and my stb gives me BBC1 on channel
801.
I can't find any reference to this in any of the Freeview literature -
does anyone know which mux 801 is on?
OnDigital/ITVDigital set-top boxes put channels they didn't know what to do
with in the 800s. This is either a duplicate version of BBC One received
via a different mux from a different transmitter, or it could be the
receiver got a bit confused. (When the BBC dual broadcast BBC Four on Mux 1
and Mux B prior to Mux 1 reducing data rate and moving to 16QAM one of the
two BBC Fours broadcast popped up on the 800s on ITV/ON boxes)

Steve
Peter
2004-07-08 19:13:13 UTC
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On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 20:05:31 +0100, "Stephen Neal"
Post by Stephen Neal
Post by Peter
I am rx'ing freeview from Kilvey and my stb gives me BBC1 on channel
801.
I can't find any reference to this in any of the Freeview literature -
does anyone know which mux 801 is on?
OnDigital/ITVDigital set-top boxes put channels they didn't know what to do
with in the 800s. This is either a duplicate version of BBC One received
via a different mux from a different transmitter, or it could be the
receiver got a bit confused. (When the BBC dual broadcast BBC Four on Mux 1
and Mux B prior to Mux 1 reducing data rate and moving to 16QAM one of the
two BBC Fours broadcast popped up on the 800s on ITV/ON boxes)
Steve
Can I reset the box to get rid of this channel anomaly?
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Peter

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Mark Carver
2004-07-08 20:11:40 UTC
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Post by Peter
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 20:05:31 +0100, "Stephen Neal"
Post by Stephen Neal
OnDigital/ITVDigital set-top boxes put channels they didn't know
what to do with in the 800s. This is either a duplicate version of
BBC One received via a different mux from a different transmitter,
or it could be the receiver got a bit confused. (When the BBC dual
broadcast BBC Four on Mux 1 and Mux B prior to Mux 1 reducing data
rate and moving to 16QAM one of the two BBC Fours broadcast popped
up on the 800s on ITV/ON boxes)
Steve
Can I reset the box to get rid of this channel anomaly?
Try a fresh channel scan. If you are getting the other Beeb stations on
Mux 1 there's no reason why BBC 1 shouldn't appear on Ch 1.
If it still persists at popping up on 801 then either your box is
at fault, though I can't think how, or (quite likely) the PID for BBC 1 from
Kilvey Hill is incorrect, or not recognisable. ISTR this has happened before
on other transmitters for other channels.
(ISTR a similar problem at Oxford for a few days when BBC 1/2 changed region there ?)

Does any friend on Kilvey have a Freeview box ? If so you could ask them
to perform a new channel scan, though if they end up with BBC 1 at 801
they won't be too pleased!
Peter
2004-07-08 22:50:46 UTC
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On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 21:11:40 +0100, "Mark Carver"
Post by Mark Carver
Post by Peter
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 20:05:31 +0100, "Stephen Neal"
Post by Stephen Neal
OnDigital/ITVDigital set-top boxes put channels they didn't know
what to do with in the 800s. This is either a duplicate version of
BBC One received via a different mux from a different transmitter,
or it could be the receiver got a bit confused. (When the BBC dual
broadcast BBC Four on Mux 1 and Mux B prior to Mux 1 reducing data
rate and moving to 16QAM one of the two BBC Fours broadcast popped
up on the 800s on ITV/ON boxes)
Steve
Can I reset the box to get rid of this channel anomaly?
Try a fresh channel scan. If you are getting the other Beeb stations on
Mux 1 there's no reason why BBC 1 shouldn't appear on Ch 1.
If it still persists at popping up on 801 then either your box is
at fault, though I can't think how, or (quite likely) the PID for BBC 1 from
Kilvey Hill is incorrect, or not recognisable. ISTR this has happened before
on other transmitters for other channels.
(ISTR a similar problem at Oxford for a few days when BBC 1/2 changed region there ?)
The only channels I get on Mux 1 (Ch 25) are the two radio channels -
no TV at all.
When I connect the stb to the aerial we have rigged up in work it gets
everything on Mus 1 - probably because it's not Ch25 as the aerial is
pulling in a signal from Wenvoe and the Mendips.
Post by Mark Carver
Does any friend on Kilvey have a Freeview box ? If so you could ask them
to perform a new channel scan, though if they end up with BBC 1 at 801
they won't be too pleased!
I will try a rescan otherwise the stb goes on eBay - especially if all
I can get is BBC2 W
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Peter

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Stephen
2004-07-09 02:09:47 UTC
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Post by Peter
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 21:11:40 +0100, "Mark Carver"
Post by Mark Carver
Post by Peter
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 20:05:31 +0100, "Stephen Neal"
Post by Stephen Neal
OnDigital/ITVDigital set-top boxes put channels they didn't know
what to do with in the 800s. This is either a duplicate version of
BBC One received via a different mux from a different transmitter,
or it could be the receiver got a bit confused. (When the BBC dual
broadcast BBC Four on Mux 1 and Mux B prior to Mux 1 reducing data
rate and moving to 16QAM one of the two BBC Fours broadcast popped
up on the 800s on ITV/ON boxes)
Steve
Can I reset the box to get rid of this channel anomaly?
Try a fresh channel scan. If you are getting the other Beeb stations on
Mux 1 there's no reason why BBC 1 shouldn't appear on Ch 1.
If it still persists at popping up on 801 then either your box is
at fault, though I can't think how, or (quite likely) the PID for BBC 1 from
Kilvey Hill is incorrect, or not recognisable. ISTR this has happened before
on other transmitters for other channels.
(ISTR a similar problem at Oxford for a few days when BBC 1/2 changed region there ?)
The only channels I get on Mux 1 (Ch 25) are the two radio channels -
no TV at all.
When I connect the stb to the aerial we have rigged up in work it gets
everything on Mus 1 - probably because it's not Ch25 as the aerial is
pulling in a signal from Wenvoe and the Mendips.
Post by Mark Carver
Does any friend on Kilvey have a Freeview box ? If so you could ask them
to perform a new channel scan, though if they end up with BBC 1 at 801
they won't be too pleased!
I will try a rescan otherwise the stb goes on eBay - especially if all
I can get is BBC2 W
It sounds like the box has remembered it's tuning settings for Wenvoe when
you plugged it into the Kilvey Hill aerial. If so 1 will always be set for
Wenvoe BBC1 and 801 will always be set for Kilvey Hill BBC1, so only one or
the other would work depending which aerial you were using. With a Nokia On
Digital box you have two options of "add channels" or "store channels". Your
problem may have arisen from "adding" Kilvey Hill to Wenvoe. If you do a
"store channels" when using the Kilvey Hill aerial, this should wipe the
slate clean and give you everything the aerial is capable of receiving on
the correct channel number.

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