SOT: Events screened in cinemas

[Scott]

In a report this morning on the 50th anniversary of the 'Rumble in the
Jungle' it was mentioned this was screened in cinemas. How was this
done without modern digital technology? Could a cinema be linked
direct to satellite or would the signal have to be distributed from
the satellite download location? What kind of projector would be used
to screen a TV image? Was it in colour?

[Abandoned Trolley]

Post by Scott
In a report this morning on the 50th anniversary of the 'Rumble in the
Jungle' it was mentioned this was screened in cinemas. How was this
done without modern digital technology? Could a cinema be linked
direct to satellite or would the signal have to be distributed from
the satellite download location? What kind of projector would be used
to screen a TV image? Was it in colour?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eidophor

[Scott]

On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 11:58:07 +0000, Abandoned Trolley

Post by Abandoned Trolley

Post by Scott
In a report this morning on the 50th anniversary of the 'Rumble in the
Jungle' it was mentioned this was screened in cinemas. How was this
done without modern digital technology? Could a cinema be linked
direct to satellite or would the signal have to be distributed from
the satellite download location? What kind of projector would be used
to screen a TV image? Was it in colour?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eidophor

Thanks. That answers the question about colour also.

[NY]

Post by Abandoned Trolley

Post by Scott
In a report this morning on the 50th anniversary of the 'Rumble in the
Jungle' it was mentioned this was screened in cinemas. How was this
done without modern digital technology? Could a cinema be linked
direct to satellite or would the signal have to be distributed from
the satellite download location? What kind of projector would be used
to screen a TV image? Was it in colour?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eidophor

I presume from this article that early colour Eidophors were
sequential-colour (red frame followed by green frame followed by blue
frame) but later models projected the three coloured frames
simultaneously, as for a CRT.

Some modern LCD projectors are sequential-colour. I have not-so-fond
memories of watching a film in the small cinema on board a cruise ship.
The combined effect of coloured fringes around anything that moved, and
the rocking of the ship, left me feeling very unwell :-(

On the other hand, I've seen LCD projectors which give a fantastic
picture, with no coloured fringes on movement, and excellent tonal
quality without bleaching-out of highlights. I presume all cinemas have
used video projectors rather than film projectors for a while now,
especially for recently-made films such as Downton Abbey (the film).

[Dave W]

On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 10:48:13 +0000, Scott

Post by Scott
In a report this morning on the 50th anniversary of the 'Rumble in the
Jungle' it was mentioned this was screened in cinemas. How was this
done without modern digital technology? Could a cinema be linked
direct to satellite or would the signal have to be distributed from
the satellite download location? What kind of projector would be used

These days, cinemas use only digital projectors, fed from some kind of
online facility.
--
Dave W

Post by Scott
to screen a TV image? Was i

[Scott]

Post by Dave W
On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 10:48:13 +0000, Scott

Post by Scott
In a report this morning on the 50th anniversary of the 'Rumble in the
Jungle' it was mentioned this was screened in cinemas. How was this
done without modern digital technology? Could a cinema be linked
direct to satellite or would the signal have to be distributed from
the satellite download location? What kind of projector would be used

These days, cinemas use only digital projectors, fed from some kind of
online facility.

I know, but they said the Rumble in the Jungle was screened in cinemas
in 1974 and I was wondering how this was done in the absence of
digital projectors and online facilities.

[charles]

Post by Scott

Post by Dave W
On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 10:48:13 +0000, Scott

Post by Scott
In a report this morning on the 50th anniversary of the 'Rumble in the
Jungle' it was mentioned this was screened in cinemas. How was this
done without modern digital technology? Could a cinema be linked
direct to satellite or would the signal have to be distributed from
the satellite download location? What kind of projector would be used

These days, cinemas use only digital projectors, fed from some kind of
online facility.

I know, but they said the Rumble in the Jungle was screened in cinemas
in 1974 and I was wondering how this was done in the absence of
digital projectors and online facilities.

as someone already posted, there were large screen video projectors
available (Make: Eidorphor). Possibly fed with large dish at the cinema
site or a temporary radio link from a GPO source.

[Scott]

Post by charles

Post by Scott

Post by Dave W
On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 10:48:13 +0000, Scott

Post by Scott
In a report this morning on the 50th anniversary of the 'Rumble in the
Jungle' it was mentioned this was screened in cinemas. How was this
done without modern digital technology? Could a cinema be linked
direct to satellite or would the signal have to be distributed from
the satellite download location? What kind of projector would be used

These days, cinemas use only digital projectors, fed from some kind of
online facility.

I know, but they said the Rumble in the Jungle was screened in cinemas
in 1974 and I was wondering how this was done in the absence of
digital projectors and online facilities.

as someone already posted, there were large screen video projectors
available (Make: Eidorphor). Possibly fed with large dish at the cinema
site or a temporary radio link from a GPO source.

As far as I can see, Sky started in 1989. Would satellite dishes exist
in 1974?

[charles]

Post by Scott

Post by charles

Post by Scott

Post by Dave W
On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 10:48:13 +0000, Scott

Post by Scott
In a report this morning on the 50th anniversary of the 'Rumble in the
Jungle' it was mentioned this was screened in cinemas. How was this
done without modern digital technology? Could a cinema be linked
direct to satellite or would the signal have to be distributed from
the satellite download location? What kind of projector would be used

These days, cinemas use only digital projectors, fed from some kind of
online facility.

I know, but they said the Rumble in the Jungle was screened in cinemas
in 1974 and I was wondering how this was done in the absence of
digital projectors and online facilities.

as someone already posted, there were large screen video projectors
available (Make: Eidorphor). Possibly fed with large dish at the cinema
site or a temporary radio link from a GPO source.

As far as I can see, Sky started in 1989. Would satellite dishes exist
in 1974?

The GPO station at Goohilly started operating in 1962. Trans-Portable
Dishes certainly existed, but were quite large. Not your "household size".

[Abandoned Trolley]

Post by charles

Post by Scott
As far as I can see, Sky started in 1989. Would satellite dishes exist
in 1974?

The GPO station at Goohilly started operating in 1962. Trans-Portable
Dishes certainly existed, but were quite large. Not your "household size".

There were some so called "ENG" terminals around in the 80s and late 70s
for "Electronic News Gathering"

The dishes would have been around 1.8 metre diameter and would typically
be mounted on the roof of a small van, although I did briefly work on a
trailer mounted terminal with a 5.7 metre folding dish

A generator or prime power source would have been needed as the uplink
(usually in the Ku band) used TWT amps of around 150 watts


TVRO termainals (receive only) terminals were much more modest affairs

Sat TV was around long before Sky

[NY]

Post by Abandoned Trolley

Post by charles

Post by Scott
As far as I can see, Sky started in 1989. Would satellite dishes exist
in 1974?

The GPO station at Goohilly started operating in 1962. Trans-Portable
Dishes certainly existed, but were quite large. Not your "household size".

There were some so called "ENG" terminals around in the 80s and late 70s
for "Electronic News Gathering"
The dishes would have been around 1.8 metre diameter and would typically
be mounted on the roof of a small van, although I did briefly work on a
trailer mounted terminal with a 5.7 metre folding dish
A generator or prime power source would have been needed as the uplink
(usually in the Ku band) used TWT amps of around 150 watts
TVRO termainals (receive only) terminals were much more modest affairs
Sat TV was around long before Sky

As a matter of interest, with ENG, how long did it typically take from
arriving at a news site to getting the dish lined up accurately enough
to be able to transmit to the satellite and receive the studio talkback
for cueing? And was there a risk of the dish being knocked off axis a)
in strong wind, or b) if someone got into or out of the van?

Are there satellite-finder tools that are available to modern ENG crews
that weren't available in analogue TV days of the 1970s-2000s?

[Ashley Booth]

Post by NY

Post by Abandoned Trolley

Post by charles

Post by Scott
As far as I can see, Sky started in 1989. Would satellite
dishes exist in 1974?

The GPO station at Goohilly started operating in 1962.
Trans-Portable Dishes certainly existed, but were quite large.
Not your "household size".

There were some so called "ENG" terminals around in the 80s and
late 70s for "Electronic News Gathering"
The dishes would have been around 1.8 metre diameter and would
typically be mounted on the roof of a small van, although I did
briefly work on a trailer mounted terminal with a 5.7 metre
folding dish
A generator or prime power source would have been needed as the
uplink (usually in the Ku band) used TWT amps of around 150 watts
TVRO termainals (receive only) terminals were much more modest affairs
Sat TV was around long before Sky

As a matter of interest, with ENG, how long did it typically take
from arriving at a news site to getting the dish lined up accurately
enough to be able to transmit to the satellite and receive the studio
talkback for cueing? And was there a risk of the dish being knocked
off axis a) in strong wind, or b) if someone got into or out of the
van?
Are there satellite-finder tools that are available to modern ENG
crews that weren't available in analogue TV days of the 1970s-2000s?

ENG refers to just the news gathering using electronic cameras. The
pictures can be sent to the studio by dispatch rider, terrestial links
or by satellite.

The process of sending the pictures by satellite truck is called SNG.
Satellite News Gathering.

Here are a few pics of my SNG work.

https://flic.kr/s/aHsiN59975

[Davey]

On 1 Nov 2024 09:24:46 GMT

Post by Ashley Booth

Post by NY

Post by Abandoned Trolley

Post by charles

Post by Scott
As far as I can see, Sky started in 1989. Would satellite
dishes exist in 1974?

The GPO station at Goohilly started operating in 1962.
Trans-Portable Dishes certainly existed, but were quite large.
Not your "household size".

There were some so called "ENG" terminals around in the 80s and
late 70s for "Electronic News Gathering"
The dishes would have been around 1.8 metre diameter and would
typically be mounted on the roof of a small van, although I did
briefly work on a trailer mounted terminal with a 5.7 metre
folding dish
A generator or prime power source would have been needed as the
uplink (usually in the Ku band) used TWT amps of around 150 watts
TVRO termainals (receive only) terminals were much more modest affairs
Sat TV was around long before Sky

As a matter of interest, with ENG, how long did it typically take
from arriving at a news site to getting the dish lined up accurately
enough to be able to transmit to the satellite and receive the
studio talkback for cueing? And was there a risk of the dish being
knocked off axis a) in strong wind, or b) if someone got into or
out of the van?
Are there satellite-finder tools that are available to modern ENG
crews that weren't available in analogue TV days of the
1970s-2000s?

ENG refers to just the news gathering using electronic cameras. The
pictures can be sent to the studio by dispatch rider, terrestial links
or by satellite.
The process of sending the pictures by satellite truck is called SNG.
Satellite News Gathering.
Here are a few pics of my SNG work.
https://flic.kr/s/aHsiN59975

Darned flicker insist I make a load of choices before showing me the
images.

[JMB99]

BBC did a series of OBs of climbs. One of the earliest was the Old Man
of How which I think used conventional microwave links.

They did one in Glencoe in 1971

https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/search/0/20?q=glencoe+climb#top

Not sure if it was that one or the next one of a climb on Ben Nevis in
1982 when they had a trailer mounted dish and also rigged terrestrial
links back to a BT link site.

https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/a4c5e5da5a6a4a5dbb27726ff19d06b6

There was some sensitivity because the BBC links people realised that
they were about to be replaced by satellite links.

Later that year there was the Eitshal fire and a 'portable' link
transmitter was sent up to be used and it was said that it had been used
in the Falklands earlier that year.

[Davey]

On Sat, 2 Nov 2024 08:38:20 +0000

Post by JMB99
BBC did a series of OBs of climbs. One of the earliest was the Old
Man of How which I think used conventional microwave links.

Old Man of HOY? One Ian MacNaughton, if my defective memory serves me
right. But I can't remember what I had for dinner three days ago!

[Scott]

Post by Davey
On Sat, 2 Nov 2024 08:38:20 +0000

Post by JMB99
BBC did a series of OBs of climbs. One of the earliest was the Old
Man of How which I think used conventional microwave links.

Old Man of HOY? One Ian MacNaughton, if my defective memory serves me
right. But I can't remember what I had for dinner three days ago!

I knew a guy as a student who returned from his lectures and decided
he needed to rest before going for dinner. He fell asleep and wakened
at seven. He did not know whether it was evening or the next morning.
It was dark outside but he did not know if it was dark at 7 am. In the
end he decided to go to the refectory for either late dinner or early
breakfast and would find out when he got there.

[Davey]

On Sat, 02 Nov 2024 10:56:26 +0000

Post by Scott

Post by Davey
On Sat, 2 Nov 2024 08:38:20 +0000

Post by JMB99
BBC did a series of OBs of climbs. One of the earliest was the Old
Man of How which I think used conventional microwave links.

Old Man of HOY? One Ian MacNaughton, if my defective memory serves me
right. But I can't remember what I had for dinner three days ago!

I knew a guy as a student who returned from his lectures and decided
he needed to rest before going for dinner. He fell asleep and wakened
at seven. He did not know whether it was evening or the next morning.
It was dark outside but he did not know if it was dark at 7 am. In the
end he decided to go to the refectory for either late dinner or early
breakfast and would find out when he got there.

I once did a job at FIAT, Turin. I and my Italian colleague worked a
full dayshift and a half, and eventually returned to our hotel after
lunchtime. We went to our rooms, and agreed to meet up at 7pm for
dinner. Only we both slept through to the next morning, meaning that we
met up pretty close to 7am rather than the previous 7pm.

[Paul Ratcliffe]

Post by Scott
I knew a guy as a student who returned from his lectures and decided
he needed to rest before going for dinner. He fell asleep and wakened
at seven. He did not know whether it was evening or the next morning.
It was dark outside but he did not know if it was dark at 7 am.

I used to have that problem with early shifts at certain times of year,
some days having had to have a kip in the afternoon.
It caused quite a bit of panic/stress until you could work out which it
was and whether you should have been at work already.

[charles]

Post by JMB99
BBC did a series of OBs of climbs. One of the earliest was the Old Man
of How which I think used conventional microwave links.
They did one in Glencoe in 1971
https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/search/0/20?q=glencoe+climb#top
Not sure if it was that one or the next one of a climb on Ben Nevis in
1982 when they had a trailer mounted dish and also rigged terrestrial
links back to a BT link site.

It was Glencoe that used the sat dish. I remember reading about in Ariel
(BBC Staff Magazine). I objected to use use of the word "portable" to
describe the dish. I, reasonably, asked "who was going to carry it?"

Post by JMB99
https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/a4c5e5da5a6a4a5dbb27726ff19d06b6

[JMB99]

Post by charles
It was Glencoe that used the sat dish. I remember reading about in Ariel
(BBC Staff Magazine). I objected to use use of the word "portable" to
describe the dish. I, reasonably, asked "who was going to carry it?"

I think I did write "trailer mounted"!

I can't remember where they put it because Glencoe itself is surrounded
by hills. They could not even receive BBC2 for cues so had to feed TV
sound up to the main OB site using a radio link!

The Ben Nevis one was easier to site.

[Paul Ratcliffe]

Post by charles
I objected to use use of the word "portable" to
describe the dish. I, reasonably, asked "who was going to carry it?"

Transportable, hence TES - transportable earth station.

[Abandoned Trolley]

Post by NY
As a matter of interest, with ENG, how long did it typically take from
arriving at a news site to getting the dish lined up accurately enough
to be able to transmit to the satellite and receive the studio talkback
for cueing? And was there a risk of the dish being knocked off axis a)
in strong wind, or b) if someone got into or out of the van?
Are there satellite-finder tools that are available to modern ENG crews
that weren't available in analogue TV days of the 1970s-2000s?

No idea, as I never personally witnessed one used "real life"

However .. I was told that one of the satellite operators in the US
(possibly Westar or WestStar ?) allowed transponders to be rented in
time slots as small as 20 minutes, but that might still mean a couple of
hours of prep work before the allocated slot - this was back in the mid 80s

I have seen hydraulic or screw jacks used for stabilising, much the same
as cranes or cherry pickers – on vehicles as small as a Land Rover

For alignment purposes, some satellites transmitted a marker beacon on
the edge of their operating band on a known and published frequency, so
that you could see it stick out from the mush on your spectrum analyser.
I believe the orbital spacings at the time were less than one degree, so
there must a have been a lot of potential for error.

[Paul Ratcliffe]

On Fri, 1 Nov 2024 09:58:23 +0000, Abandoned Trolley

Post by Abandoned Trolley
However .. I was told that one of the satellite operators in the US
(possibly Westar or WestStar ?) allowed transponders to be rented in
time slots as small as 20 minutes,

We used to book slots as small as 15 minutes with a commercial
operator in the UK (Globecast). We liked them because they offered us
a nice hot satellite near the top of the arc, with easy to find beacons,
short notice booking for not too much money, and no hassle on
talk-ups/cleardowns.
If you found yourself stuck on an ad-hoc transponder/channel on a late
booking on a Friday, it often involved talking to Eutelsat or Intelsat
directly, which was loads of time-wasting hassle often with American
or European native speakers.
Best of all was dealing with BBC SatOps of course... well until 2013
anyway.

Post by Abandoned Trolley
For alignment purposes, some satellites transmitted a marker beacon on
the edge of their operating band on a known and published frequency,

Not necessarily at the edge. It could be anywhere.

Post by Abandoned Trolley
so that you could see it stick out from the mush on your spectrum analyser.

You got to know the traffic patterns and the characteristic signature
when you were looking at the whole spectrum too.
You did of course have to zoom right in to the correct place to find the
beacon.

[Paul Ratcliffe]

Post by NY
As a matter of interest, with ENG, how long did it typically take from
arriving at a news site to getting the dish lined up accurately enough
to be able to transmit to the satellite and receive the studio talkback
for cueing?

My record was doing it in less time than it took the HPA to warm up.
On the one we used at the time, that was 3 minutes.
(There's the exact model on eBay! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265680565197)
Of course some locations were more tricky than others and so were some
satellites.

Post by NY
And was there a risk of the dish being knocked off axis
a) in strong wind

Yes, we had quite a low wind limit on ours, and it was a bit mechanically
iffy too, which made life a real pain.
Then there were the inclined orbit satellites (getting towards the end of
their lives) which meant you had to chase the damned thing round the sky
as well, and we were operating on fairly low fade margins.
The BBC (and I think ITV at some point) used these for news because they
were cheaper.

Post by NY
or b) if someone got into or out of the van?

Generally not, unless you had 'forgotten' to put the stabs. down.
But it was very obvious and uncomfortable when you were inside.

Post by NY
Are there satellite-finder tools that are available to modern ENG crews
that weren't available in analogue TV days of the 1970s-2000s?

Yes, there are apps.
We had to use a compass/clinometer device and skill/knowledge/experience.

[Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd]

Post by Scott
I know, but they said the Rumble in the Jungle was screened in
cinemas in 1974 and I was wondering how this was done in the
absence of digital projectors and online facilities.

The Eidophor was the only large screen xenon lamp projector capable of filling
an 18m wide screen with 7,000 lumens for many decades, they cost six figures
(rented for a £1,000/day in the seventies) and came with a resident engineer to
keep them running.

It took until the nineties for digital projectors to out perform an Eidophor.

Satellite TV distribution did not really start until the eighties, the GPO
probably supplied temporary circuits using microwave dishes.

Angus

[charles]

Post by Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd

Post by Scott
I know, but they said the Rumble in the Jungle was screened in cinemas
in 1974 and I was wondering how this was done in the absence of digital
projectors and online facilities.

The Eidophor was the only large screen xenon lamp projector capable of
filling an 18m wide screen with 7,000 lumens for many decades, they cost
six figures (rented for a £1,000/day in the seventies) and came with a
resident engineer to keep them running.
It took until the nineties for digital projectors to out perform an Eidophor.

One of them projected picture onto the front of Buckingham Palace for some
event (Jubilee in 2002?). A theatre director (amateur theatre), who I was
working with thought it would be good for his upcoming show "Wizard of Oz".
I made enquiries and was told the projetcor was "the size of Mini and twice
as noisy"

Post by Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
Satellite TV distribution did not really start until the eighties, the
GPO probably supplied temporary circuits using microwave dishes.
Angus

[JNugent]

Post by Scott

Post by Dave W
On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 10:48:13 +0000, Scott

Post by Scott
In a report this morning on the 50th anniversary of the 'Rumble in the
Jungle' it was mentioned this was screened in cinemas. How was this
done without modern digital technology? Could a cinema be linked
direct to satellite or would the signal have to be distributed from
the satellite download location? What kind of projector would be used

These days, cinemas use only digital projectors, fed from some kind of
online facility.

I know, but they said the Rumble in the Jungle was screened in cinemas
in 1974 and I was wondering how this was done in the absence of
digital projectors and online facilities.

Separate prints at each venue. The same was done some years earlier for
the 1966 World Cup Finaal (in colour, of course).

[Scott]

Post by JNugent

Post by Scott

Post by Dave W
On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 10:48:13 +0000, Scott

Post by Scott
In a report this morning on the 50th anniversary of the 'Rumble in the
Jungle' it was mentioned this was screened in cinemas. How was this
done without modern digital technology? Could a cinema be linked
direct to satellite or would the signal have to be distributed from
the satellite download location? What kind of projector would be used

These days, cinemas use only digital projectors, fed from some kind of
online facility.

I know, but they said the Rumble in the Jungle was screened in cinemas
in 1974 and I was wondering how this was done in the absence of
digital projectors and online facilities.

Separate prints at each venue. The same was done some years earlier for
the 1966 World Cup Finaal (in colour, of course).

You mean it wasn't live? I assumed that was the point of going.

[JNugent]

Post by Scott

Post by JNugent

Post by Scott

Post by Dave W
On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 10:48:13 +0000, Scott

Post by Scott
In a report this morning on the 50th anniversary of the 'Rumble in the
Jungle' it was mentioned this was screened in cinemas. How was this
done without modern digital technology? Could a cinema be linked
direct to satellite or would the signal have to be distributed from
the satellite download location? What kind of projector would be used

These days, cinemas use only digital projectors, fed from some kind of
online facility.

I know, but they said the Rumble in the Jungle was screened in cinemas
in 1974 and I was wondering how this was done in the absence of
digital projectors and online facilities.

Separate prints at each venue. The same was done some years earlier for
the 1966 World Cup Finaal (in colour, of course).

You mean it wasn't live? I assumed that was the point of going.

The World Cup Final of 1966 was on live TV, but not in colour (that
didn't come until 1967, and at that, only on BBC2, which many people did
not have).

[Scott]

Post by JNugent

Post by Scott

Post by JNugent

Post by Scott

Post by Dave W
On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 10:48:13 +0000, Scott

Post by Scott
In a report this morning on the 50th anniversary of the 'Rumble in the
Jungle' it was mentioned this was screened in cinemas. How was this
done without modern digital technology? Could a cinema be linked
direct to satellite or would the signal have to be distributed from
the satellite download location? What kind of projector would be used

These days, cinemas use only digital projectors, fed from some kind of
online facility.

I know, but they said the Rumble in the Jungle was screened in cinemas
in 1974 and I was wondering how this was done in the absence of
digital projectors and online facilities.

Separate prints at each venue. The same was done some years earlier for
the 1966 World Cup Finaal (in colour, of course).

You mean it wasn't live? I assumed that was the point of going.

The World Cup Final of 1966 was on live TV, but not in colour (that
didn't come until 1967, and at that, only on BBC2, which many people did
not have).

I was asking if the cinema screening of the 'Rumble in the Jungle' was
live.

[Abandoned Trolley]

Post by Scott
I was asking if the cinema screening of the 'Rumble in the Jungle' was
live.

"The fight was broadcast live on pay-per-view on closed-circuit
television, also known as theatre television, to venues across the
world. The fight had a record estimated 50 million viewers on
closed-circuit television worldwide,[3] grossing an estimated $100
million (inflation-adjusted $620 million) in revenue"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rumble_in_the_Jungle#Viewership_and_revenue

[Scott]

On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 09:21:45 +0000, Abandoned Trolley

Post by Abandoned Trolley

Post by Scott
I was asking if the cinema screening of the 'Rumble in the Jungle' was
live.

"The fight was broadcast live on pay-per-view on closed-circuit
television, also known as theatre television, to venues across the
world. The fight had a record estimated 50 million viewers on
closed-circuit television worldwide,[3] grossing an estimated $100
million (inflation-adjusted $620 million) in revenue"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rumble_in_the_Jungle#Viewership_and_revenue

I thought that, so the question of how the signal got to the cinemas
remains valid, and as yet unanswered :-)

[Andy Burns]

Post by Scott
Abandoned Trolley

Post by Abandoned Trolley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rumble_in_the_Jungle#Viewership_and_revenue

I thought that, so the question of how the signal got to the cinemas
remains valid, and as yet unanswered :-)

Regarding the UK, did many cinemas bother, given that it was shown on BBC1?

[Scott]

Post by Andy Burns

Post by Scott
Abandoned Trolley

Post by Abandoned Trolley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rumble_in_the_Jungle#Viewership_and_revenue

I thought that, so the question of how the signal got to the cinemas
remains valid, and as yet unanswered :-)

Regarding the UK, did many cinemas bother, given that it was shown on BBC1?

Are you suggesting the terrestrial broadcast could be used by the
cinemas with no need for satellite download or other distribution
system?

[Andy Burns]

Post by Scott
Are you suggesting the terrestrial broadcast could be used by the
cinemas with no need for satellite download or other distribution
system?

Depends if the cinemas would want dedicated commentary.

But I was more questioning why someone would pay £10 to watch something
in a cinema that they could stay at home and watch for free?

Though some must have paid ...

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[Scott]

Post by Andy Burns

Post by Scott
Are you suggesting the terrestrial broadcast could be used by the
cinemas with no need for satellite download or other distribution
system?

Depends if the cinemas would want dedicated commentary.
But I was more questioning why someone would pay £10 to watch something
in a cinema that they could stay at home and watch for free?
Though some must have paid ...
<https://www.sportspages.com/product/muhammad-ali-v-george-foreman-1974-34-rumble-in-the-jungle-34-cinema-ticket>

Maybe it was an atmosphere thing being a part of a crowd?

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Post by Scott
Maybe it was an atmosphere thing being a part of a crowd?

Just like the football fans who go to the world cup with no tickets,
then gather together in fan zones to watch a massive TV screen showing
something they could see at home